South Warwickshire Family History Society War Memorial Transcription Project

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The Fallen Men of South Warwickshire - World War One


Guardsman 13655 Herbert OLDERSHAW - 2nd Battalion, Grenadier Guards


Killed in Action on Friday 4 September 1914 aged 24


Military History

     
Theatre of War Medals Commonwealth War Grave or Memorial
France & Flanders 1914 Star & Clasp, British War & Victory Medals Guards Grave, Villers Cotterets Forest
     
Arrived in Theatre Medal Citation (if app) SWFHS Area Memorials
13 Aug 1914 in Havre, France ~ Bilton War Memorial
     
Action, Battle or Other Reason Killed Date and Place Enlisted Other War Memorials
First Battle of the Marne 1908 in Nottingham British Thompson Houston, Rugby
    Rugby Memorial Gates
Place of Death Previous Regiments or Units  
Villers Cotterets  ~  
     
  • Herbert's service number indicates that he enlisted between 4 Jan 1907 (13051) and 19 May 1908 (13752)
  • He was an army reservist and was mobilised on 4 Aug 1914.

Circumstances of Death

Herbert is listed as being killed in action on 4th September 1914 and he was buried at Guards Grave, Villers Cotterets Forest. However his CWGC grave registration form states he was killed on "4-9-14 (about)" and his pension card states that "dead body found by R.R.C. The 2nd Battalion war shows that he was killed/went missing on 1st September when the Battalion were "hotly engaged at Villers Cotterets" and by the 4th the Battalion had marched around 110km's south to Le Bertrand via Meaux. Also posted below is information from the CWGC website about the actions of 1 Sept 1914 and two articles from the Rugby Advertiser.



 Personal & Family History

 

Birth Date/Place Baptism Date/Place
26 Aug 1889 in Nottingham 13 Oct 1889 at Nottingham, St. Nicholas
   
Parents Names Abode
Sarah Elizabeth & Samuel Oldershaw Nottingham
   
Wife and Marriage Details Children
Violet Annie Oldershaw nee Chambers Ivy May 14 Mar 1914
Jan Qtr 1913 in Nottingham  
   
Schools Colleges
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Address History Employment History
1889 - 21 March Street, Nottingham 1901 - Scholar
1891 - 21 March Street, Nottingham 1911 - Soldier in Grenadier Guards?
1901 - 39 Beverley Street, Nottingham 1913 - British Thompson-Houston (BTH)            
1911 - Believed to be with Grenadier Guards  
1913 - Bilton  
   
  • After extensive research we believe that the Bilton War Memorial contains another error and used the initial F instead of H
  • The British Thompson-Houston War Memorial in Rugby states Herbert Oldershaw and the Rugby Memorial Gates uses H Oldershaw
  • Rugby Remembers Page
  • Nottingham Roll of Honour Page
  • After Herbert's death his wife Violet married Harry Sentance of the 3rd Grenadier Guards who, tragically, was also killed in WW1