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Herbert is listed as being killed in action on 4th September 1914 and he was buried at Guards Grave, Villers Cotterets Forest. However his CWGC grave registration form states he was killed on "4-9-14 (about)" and his pension card states that "dead body found by R.R.C. The 2nd Battalion war shows that he was killed/went missing on 1st September when the Battalion were "hotly engaged at Villers Cotterets" and by the 4th the Battalion had marched around 110km's south to Le Bertrand via Meaux. Also posted below is information from the CWGC website about the actions of 1 Sept 1914 and two articles from the Rugby Advertiser.
War Diary 1st to 4th Sept 1914
1st September 1914: Marched from Soucy 4am fighting rearguard action. Battalion hotly engaged at Villers Cotterets.
Lost 4 officers missing (Lieut & Adjt J MacDougall, Lieuts F Needham, Lieut J.M.Manners and 2/Lt G.E. Cecil with losses N.C.O’s and men as follows:- 2 wounded, 122 missing.
Halted at 12 midnight, Coys Bivouacked in various parts of Betz and 3 Coys at La Villeneuve.
2nd September 1914: Marched at 2am, halted for breakfasts at 9.30, marched to Rolenter near Meaux. Bivouacked
3rd September 1914: Marched at 7am thru Meaux to Pierre Levee and occupied position on Pierre Levee – Signy Road.
4th September 1914: Marched at 9.30am, Battalion engaged, Major Jeffreys commanded rear party, marched to Le Bertrand arriving at 11pm and Bivouacked.
Reinforcements under Lieut E.D. Ridley joined.
CWGC Description of Events on 1st Sept 1914
The Forêt de Retz was the scene of a rearguard action fought by the 4th (Guards) Brigade on 1 September 1914. In the aftermath of the fighting, many of the dead Guardsmen were buried by the people of Villers-Cotterêts. The cemetery was formed by the Irish Guards when the British forces regained this territory two months later and contains 98 Commonwealth burials of the First World War, 20 of which are unidentified. Just north of the cemetery on the road to Vivières stands a memorial to the Coldstream, Grenadier and Irish Guardsmen who were killed or mortally wounded during the rearguard action. The memorial, which was unveiled in 1922, was placed there by Lady Edward Cecil, the mother of Acting Captain George Edward Cecil of the Grenadier Guards who fell during the fighting on 1 September and is buried in the cemetery.
The 4th (Guards) Brigade and the Rearguard Action at Villers-Cotterêts.
In the aftermath of the Allied defeat at Battle of Mons on August 23 1914, the British and French forces began a long, hard retreat south west toward Paris. On the evening of 31 August, the officers and men of the 4th (Guards) Brigade halted just north of the great forest around Villers-Cotterêts. They had been marching in hot weather for over a week with little sleep and many of them had been involved in fighting at Landrecies and elsewhere. A large detachment of German troops was expected to attack from the north early the following morning and shortly after midnight the entire brigade was ordered to form a rearguard to cover the retreat of the Second Division. The 2nd Battalion of the Grenadier Guards and the 3rd Coldstream Guards entrenched between Soucy and Mont-Gobert, while units of the Coldstream and Irish Guards formed a second line further south along the northern edge of the forest.
When the German attack began at about 10 a.m., the Guardsmen in the forward positions came under heavy rifle and artillery fire and were forced to retire and join their comrades in the forest. The dense undergrowth, along with a heavy morning mist, slowed the German advance through the forest, but also caused much confusion and made it difficult for British officers to communicate with each other and direct their men. By mid-morning all units of the Grenadier, Coldstream, and Irish Guards were engaged in close-quarter fighting among the trees. In some parts of the forest, the opposing forces were no more than seventy yards apart and during the course of the morning two platoons of the Grenadiers were cut off from the rest of the Brigade and overrun by the attackers. The clearing at Rond de la Reine was the scene of some the heaviest fighting as the Guardsmen fought their way back to the village of Villers-Cotterêts under sustained machine-gun fire. The commanding officer of the Irish Guards, Colonel George Morris, was killed early in the action, while Brigadier-General Scott-Kerr, who was in overall command, was badly wounded as the Brigade retired from Ronde de la Reine. The loss of these two very senior officers added to the general confusion, but the Brigade continued to gradually retire through the forest in good order.
Fighting continued until well into the afternoon, but by 6 p.m., with support from units of the Royal Berkshire Regiment and the 5th Infantry Brigade, the surviving Guardsmen finally left the forest and rejoined the general retreat. The Brigade had successfully covered the Second Division but had suffered heavy losses with over 300 officers and men killed.
Rugby Advertiser Articles
Rugby Advertiser, 24 October 1914
‘Bilton Guardsman Missing. The wife of Pte H Oldershaw (13655) of the 2nd Grenadier Guards, has received official intimation that her husband has been posted as missing after an engagement at an unknown place on September 20th. Pte Oldershaw, who had served three years in the Guards, and was called up at the mobilisation on August 4th, and is 25 years of age, and has resided in Rugby for several years. Since his marriage a short time ago he has been living at Bilton. His young wife, who has a baby seven months old, has only received two letters from her husband since the outbreak of war, the second of which informed her that he had been ordered to Belgium. The fact that the scene of the engagement was unknown would appear to indicate a surprise attack, and the probability is that Pte Oldershaw is a prisoner of war, and hopes are entertained that this surmise may prove correct.
Rugby Advertiser, 21 November 1914
Still Missing. No futher news has been received by Mrs H Oldershaw, late of Bilton, and now residing at 129 Oxford Street, Rugby, concerning the fate of her husband, Pte Herbert Oldershaw (13655), of the 2nd Grenadier Guards, who has been posted as missing since September 20th, after an engagement at an unknown place. Pte. Oldershaw was 25 years of age and was a reservist.
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